In this episode, Annick van Rinsum speaks with Galit Ariel: techno-futurist, Designing the City for All Fellow and founder and head of futures at Future Memory INC. They talk about the value of the unquantifiable, about unlearning to carelessly give up our data for convenience, and about her Designing the City for All fellowship in which she explores the impact of tech-infused urban environments on agency, representation, and self-expression. Do you want to know more about this topic? Join our triptych series Hacking the city on Monday November 15th, Monday November 29th and Monday December 6th, online or in person. Go to www.dezwijger.nl/agenda to see more. Or Go to our online research page on Designing Cities for All at www.dezwijger.nl/dcfa. Editor & producer: Annick van Rinsum