In this episode, Annick van Rinsum speaks with OluTimehin Adegbeye: writer and advocate at the intersection of social justice, human rights, and inclusion. They talk about the difference between equal and equitable design, designing and giving shape to the world from the margins, and her ways of navigating an unjust world. Do you want to know more about this topic? Go to our online research page on Designing Cities for All at dezwijger.nl/dcfa. There, you can watch back episode 4 of the Designing Cities for All LIVECAST in which OluTimehin was a guest. Editor & producer: Annick van Rinsum